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so tonight boy this is a subject that's

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rather new to me although of course it's

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a familiar symbol we're talking about

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the Celtic Cross and we're talking with

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author researcher Kryten Miller and he

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has made some discoveries about what we

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just assumed was a gravestone marker or

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a religious symbol of some kind

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generally but I find that there's always

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something behind things that people make

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or come up with and that certainly seems

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like the case with the Celtic Cross

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welcome to the show Kryten Miller thank

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you for having me well I really

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appreciate it and good morning to you

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again I've interrupted someone's sleep

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and rest in order to provide us with

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this great information so we sure

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appreciate your efforts in your research

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and as well for joining us here tonight

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or this morning for you as the case may

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be now you have a new book out it's

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called the golden thread of time and

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it's real

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about this symbol and what you

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discovered about this symbol it's not

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just a symbol it's not just a it's not

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just religious there's a much older

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older meaning and it's actually a device

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is that correct yes that's right I

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discovered the device in 1997 and got

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two British patents on it in 2000 and

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2001 as a device for astronomy

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navigation and surveying can you hear me

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yes I can now how was it that you

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initially came up with this idea what

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that prompted you to create this device

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it's fashioned on the Celtic cross how

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did that how did you get to that point I

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imagine there was a lot of years in

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between the time the idea struck you to

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start researching this and until you

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actually created your own device the

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creation of my own device was for a

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purpose scientific purpose the concept

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behind having a theory is that you then

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make a model so that's what I did I had

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a theory then I made a model and then I

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set it out to peer group review and then

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I went for patenting because patenting

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is commercial and commercially it's the

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toughest type of review you can have

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because if it's obvious or some of these

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invented before you can't get a patent

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on it that's right yeah so not a lot of

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people realize that but that also means

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that it had to already be working

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because they wouldn't patent with a

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patent here in the United States please

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forgive us

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they wouldn't they wouldn't issue a

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patent on something that didn't work so

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you must have had to prove to them that

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it works somehow absolutely and that's

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at the back of the book the whole patent

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application and all the working drawings

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at the back of the book the idea about a

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patent is that somebody can

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motley reconstruct and use the patented

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material and and so that's what what you

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can do so what you have is a universal

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patterned that proves that an item works

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and shows how to construct it and use it

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so that's quite important because it was

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issued by the British Patent Office and

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and I was awarded two patents because I

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did one on the Celtic Cross but I also

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did the other designs and all the other

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designs also apply in ancient history

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what I found after that was having done

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a total of twenty years of research is

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that the Celtic cross itself the design

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is associated with ships and its

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international and it's probably

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Neolithic in origin which really throws

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history on its head when you understand

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that it's it's so accurate in its

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measurements though they allows you to

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find your position on the planet within

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three nautical miles which is within

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sight of the horizon that's both

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latitude and longitude and you know it's

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so funny we see so many things now that

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you know we kind of pass by we look at

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and they don't really mean anything to

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us other than you know than the obvious

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but it seems like it's just like in

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language you know we sort of say words

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but we don't really think about the

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meaning of the words that that we're

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saying and when you mentioned the word

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horizon right then it struck me because

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we don't think of the true meaning of

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that word which I heard you explained in

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one of your documentaries so it could

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you know it's right on the button

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horizon the Egyptian god of time was

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called Horus the anagram of that is

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hours and zone means belt so in the

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in in translation what we're really

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talking about is the belt of time hmm

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the belt of time is zodiac I think so so

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we go take that further now then you can

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know translate now I should say this

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what you said about words is so

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important

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nearly every secret that's available to

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mankind is written down somewhere and

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one of the best places is a collagen

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dictionary so we looked up the name

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because we're looking at the etymology

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of the word as well so yeah temple comes

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from tiempo which means place of time

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what a lot of people don't realize is

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that church is the same because church

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is an old English word derived from Kirk

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and Kirk means to rule to measure but

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the combination word means measure of

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circles sailing yeah absolutely not

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that's in any dictionary well not any

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dictionary not the online ones because

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they're a little bit dumbed down but if

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you get a good college dictionary though

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then it then you can see the translation

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of those words so church comes from Kirk

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Kirk means ruler when ruler is what we

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in England I don't know what it's the

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same in the US Muse at school to measure

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things yes we absolutely do yes so a

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ruler now that also means a king or

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royalty so it rules okay our King rules

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and that word is about measure the

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measure of law the measure of distance

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the measure of money the measure of land

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and so all of these things are actually

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in the dictionary and they're also in

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some of the holy books so the the answer

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to what our ancestors did is in plain

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view but we don't see it which says

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something about our psychology what's

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happened to us

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now you say

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that this device has been around since

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Neolithic times yeah and when you know

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we probably think of people as you know

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not too sophisticated but yet this is a

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fairly simple device but it was

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brilliant that they were able to figure

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it out you also indicated that the in

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order for them to have been able to

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successfully use this device they would

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have had to known at that time that the

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earth was round that's correct

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sorry oh I'm sorry but I was just

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thinking I was having a conversation

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with a friend about this this afternoon

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and I was thinking well you know we all

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know the stories about Galileo and how

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he was regarded as a heretic because he

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was saying that the world was round and

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not flat and you know it never made a

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lot of sense to me why the church why

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that would be a heretical idea of it oh

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yeah is it that they didn't want us to

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know this so like everything else they

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scared us away from it sure let me let

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me explain something about just go back

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to patenting and how the first patent

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ever granted was in in it was in the

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14th century AD and before that there

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was the thing called Royal Assent so

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what eventually what really well that

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really means is there anything that was

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good for the king or the ruler of

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royalty and good for society they would

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then issue a royal decree on it securing

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it for the person who invented it later

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we invented patenting and prior to

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patenting there were there was no

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what happened was they found guilt and

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secret societies so if he were a

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rpenter or you were a Mason or you were

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anything that was useful to society then

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you would have a secret society in which

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use to war are to keep us the secrets of

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your trade about it to defend that

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before patenting if you if you cross the

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line you end up in a violence that you

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were creating a mission so when you look

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back in the terrible things that were

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done to people who step too far

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against the rulership or the control

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then you're talking about people being

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burnt at the stake

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all of this excommunicated in other

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words you know they weren't afraid of

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death but it were afraid of losing their

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souls so there were terrible threats put

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upon people that made a buck the system

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and so that's what we saw in the case of

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da Vinci in Galileo they were all in

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difficulty over things that are ever

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saying so we have a basic thing we know

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let me just take you to how true it

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would be that the world they knew the

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world was ranked the Egyptians

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Mesopotamians they all invented the idea

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of astrology or what we would call

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before it was named astrology were

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primitive astronomy the most important

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thing to understand about that is that

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they were able to say what your birth

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saying was and they were able to do that

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two or three thousand years ago when

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they built the pyramids now that doesn't

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seem much except you must understand

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that your birth sign is the sign in

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which the Sun is in on the day that you

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were born now common sense will tell you

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if you walk out and look at the sky at

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the Sun in a sign you can't see it sure

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you get that absolutely if you can't see

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it how could they see it and how they

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could see it was that they could look at

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midnight night sky

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okay to midnight 12 hours before and

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know where the Sun was at noon in

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daylight consequently knew they were on

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a revolving planet which looked out into

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space at one stage and then looked in

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towards the Sun during the day you have

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the proof in the fact that that that

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astrology was used that they knew the

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world was bright yeah so when we come to

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the Celtic Cross the Celtic crosses a

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circle with four spokes each of the

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spokes represents the four seasons of

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the year and they also represent the

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four parts of the day morning you know

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morning afternoon evening night so it

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really is a model of the solar system

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that they made an instrument out of it's

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a copy it's in alchemic terms you would

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say as above so below what is it heaven

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is on earth the same as it says of the

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Lord's Prayer yeah let your kingdom come

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on earth it's the same meaning so didn't

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you say something or was that the 23rd

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psalm about something that was in there

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that related to oh yea though I walk

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through the valley of the shadow of

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death

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Psalm 23.4 yes but because it's a number

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in the Bible which is is the number of

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our life it's life on Earth you see the

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earth is tilted 23.4 degrees and so as

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it goes through the year through the

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circle of the outside of the Celtic

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Cross or if you like through the circle

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it tilts away from the Sun in the winter

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in the north and then at the equinox it

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lies the earth lies horizontal to the

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Sun and then in the summer

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the earth is tilted towards the center

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of the Sun but the tilt is twenty three

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point four degrees

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that's what what is the meaning of what

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follows it says you know by rod and thy

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staff they comfort me is that a

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reference or this device or absolutely

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and and the reason is we what people

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don't realize is the word rod actually

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means a ruler

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it's a measuring stick it comes from

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Egyptian word for read and a read is a

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segmented piece of grass which they used

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to measure with so Reed became rod and

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in Scotland rod became rude and rude

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means cross o Holyrood is the Scottish

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Parliament and the Queen's place in

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Edinburgh but and that's called the holy

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root meaning the holy measuring stage so

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it's an ancient word for measurement is

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root and so is rod and that is in any

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dictionary you can find out a Wikipedia

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if you want just put the meaning of root

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the meaning of rod in and it will tell

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you is it in one hand that it's cross

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and the other hand that it's a measuring

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stick mm you know we know when when I

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heard that reference made about the rod

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and the staff in my mind I thought okay

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that's two sticks and so cross them and

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they make a cross absolutely but one

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stick is a measuring stick and the other

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staff mounted on yes everything's in the

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Bible that but we can't understand that

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because we don't understand that all

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civilizations on the planet prehistoric

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civilizations were based on astrology

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the Maya the Chinese the Egyptians

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they're all astrological societies and

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our whole concepts in religion -

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sentiment now you know we powerful

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instrument well it seems to be in you

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know as you said you know it's it's

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about time and being able to keep time

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and measure time and

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space I guess so

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you know we hear a lot in few weeks ago

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we did a show on the great cross adonde

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and you know what's our so called

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apocalyptic cross upon day is there a

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relation because there seems to be an

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indication of time on that cross or at

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least according to people's

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interpretation and there seems to also

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be a relationship between that cross and

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the clock and I'm now it's failing me

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what the name of the church is in

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Cornwall that has the clock that says

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watch and pray time Haste's away and I

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guess there must be some indicator that

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points to this clock or something like

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that at least some people have made that

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connection is this all part and parcel

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of the same thing yes

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apocalyptic means literally means

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revelation of course yes so the cross

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the cross when it comes okay is a

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revelation and we expect to have things

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revealed to us that's what were promised

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yes so we're what's revealed to us is

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the nature of time Wow our place in the

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universe and our ancestors knew the

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nature of time although science is still

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seeking it now so what's happening a

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science is seeking the nature of time

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and the answer to everything

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whereas our ancestors already knew yes I

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know a couple so the first lines of

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Genesis when you read the Bible mentions

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the three sixes so God made the earth in

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six days and the morning and the evening

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worth were the first game so six days

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times six hours times six

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is three sixes hmm yeah so the very

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first lane in the Bible that you with

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the the number that people are supposed

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to be afraid of reveals all the

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mathematical numbers of the universe

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well that's another that's another

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example then possibly of you know they

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made something that was useful and that

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had been used they made it evil so that

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we would stay away from who's gonna

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associate with the 666 if they think

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that it's the mark of the beast here be

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dragons they used to put on the old

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charts on the sailing routes to America

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you know so that the other people

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wouldn't go on their trade routes here

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be dragons exactly the same thing the

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knowledge of keeping time was power it

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tells you when to have your festivals it

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tells you when to go to work when stop

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work and the ancient people were in an

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agricultural society after the end of

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hunter gathering in the agricultural

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society when they required people to

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behave in a way that was controlled hmm

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they're common people were enslaved so

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it was completely controlled and

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enslaved and lived in mostly poverty and

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then talking about the masses and the

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reason for America being formed was that

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the Europeans were under such oppression

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that they're left found a new land yes

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and the oppression that was put on by

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controlling time the timekeepers the

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Watchers as they used to be called Wow

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okay so the Watchers have always been

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there Stonehenge as a clock the great

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pyramids are a clock and the great

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pyramids encompass exactly the same

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numbers as the Bible but people can't

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see it completely blind to it well you

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know we hear that all the time it's it's

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laid out on the earth for us to see you

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know

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we just don't see it we don't see it

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because the the genetically we've had

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generations of being controlled yes and

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there's another thing called belief now

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to lief there's a lot another one that

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can be read in the Bible what are your

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beliefs I'm sorry in the dictionaries

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belief means by love implying without

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knowledge hmm

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do you believe in God no I know that so

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religion is another one religion means

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to it comes from the Latin well this

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year from which the word ligature is

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known so it means to be tied to be bound

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but it means more than that means to be

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rebound retied so people say to me are

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you religious and I say no not religious

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because I'm not tied but they assume

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that I mean that I don't believe that

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there's a greater spirit a creator

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spirit so they assume that because I say

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I'm not religious but then they don't

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understand the words they use are the

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words I say right well you know

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certainly there was something before

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religion ever came about you know what

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we insult our ancestors when we say the

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worship the Sun you see didn't worship

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the Sun they used the Sun in

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hunter-gathering times if you know how

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to gather us like the modern Eskimo they

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go off you know and in their skin boats

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and the young Eskimos even now can

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travel 1,800 miles in the summer and

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what they do is they they used in those

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in the ancient times you use the skin

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boats as as houses so they would sail

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the boat drag it up on the lantern

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upside down you got a house and what

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they did is they followed the hurts and

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the seasons so they would travel north

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and south apparently just like the

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animals but to do that they had to

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understand where they were going and

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where they had to be which is what we

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call now logistics yeah

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yeah logistics is what gets the food on

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the shelves now I'm a fellow of the

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Chartered Institute of logistics and

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transport that's what I do I make sure

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that all the goods are on the shelves

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for as though which is Walmart and Tess

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goes over here and big retailers

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similarly so that's what I do so the

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idea behind logistics which is a black

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art is to get something to a place or

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something or somebody to a place at the

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right time and to do it you need to

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manipulate time and speed and distance

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our ancestors when they were doing

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hunter-gathering where their tribes were

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moving about the face of the earth were

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exactly the same they had to know when

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the fish were running in a particular

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area or when nuts were to be collected

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in their season in the north and then it

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would flee off back down to the south

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again to keep warm

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the last Indians that made the last Red

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Indians that made canoes did that they

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travel through Great Lakes down down

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south with their families and then came

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back up north again in the summer

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yes it we completely forgotten because

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we live in a world of airplanes and

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trains and buses and settlements sure

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that 12,000 years ago or even less the

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only way to get about was by sea or

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river yes you know so we we just do not

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understand or have any idea of what was

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needed so way they needed those things

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needed to be able to tell time and they

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needed to be able to measure the

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position of the earth to achieve what

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they did and of course diffusion is all

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about that we we know now that that

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we're now starting to find that the

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genetics of the Chinese were in in the

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west coast of America and the arguments

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on the solutrean points and the handling

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of of spear points and so forth shows

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that there was

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and interaction between the across the

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Atlantic between Europe and America we

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know that Lee

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yes you know that for a fact but then

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long before Columbus long absolutely

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yeah and fishermen were fishing off the

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great of the banks in America from

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Europe long before Columbus as well so

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then but this is a political issue yes

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it is you know great you're gonna have

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to stop right here take a quick break

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and when we come back we're gonna talk

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more about the Celtic cross its

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relationship to cultures across time and

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people like the Knights Templar so we'll

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be right back welcome back to night

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vision radio I'm your host Renee Barnett

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and if you're just joining us we are

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talking tonight with author Kryten

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00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:49,230
Miller about his new book golden thread

546
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,530
of time and all the implications that

547
00:28:57,770 --> 00:28:54,480
that brings we're talking mainly about

548
00:29:01,490 --> 00:28:57,780
the Celtic cross used by the ancients as

549
00:29:04,370 --> 00:29:01,500
a navigational device in a device for

550
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:04,380
measuring time and space so oh my

551
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:05,910
goodness this just covers everything

552
00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:08,970
doesn't it you know my I don't know Greg

553
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:11,430
NIF you saw my Facebook page today but I

554
00:29:17,950 --> 00:29:14,250
posted a picture of my favorite person

555
00:29:21,530 --> 00:29:17,960
painting and it is time and truth or

556
00:29:24,050 --> 00:29:21,540
time-saving truth and to me that image

557
00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:24,060
which depicts you know I guess father

558
00:29:32,180 --> 00:29:27,270
time a white-haired although very

559
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:32,190
muscular man ray holding in his arms and

560
00:29:37,550 --> 00:29:35,250
lifting up a figure of a woman and

561
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:37,560
they're sort of flying upwards it's me

562
00:29:44,810 --> 00:29:41,360
that has always said to me that you know

563
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,820
in time the truth will come out

564
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:47,520
the truth will be saved you know because

565
00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:50,340
some people call that that painting time

566
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:53,100
saving truth and it also sort of brings

567
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:56,370
to mind the Gospel of Thomas verse that

568
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,650
you know paraphrasing part of it says

569
00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:01,440
something that nothing that's covered up

570
00:30:08,259 --> 00:30:03,960
will remain that there's nothing covered

571
00:30:10,479 --> 00:30:08,269
up that won't be uncovered and but it's

572
00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:10,489
interesting because now I'm looking at

573
00:30:15,009 --> 00:30:12,440
it a little bit differently time and

574
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,019
truth because the truth is about time

575
00:30:19,659 --> 00:30:18,320
yes it is so now I'm going to look at

576
00:30:22,259 --> 00:30:19,669
that painting with a little bit of a

577
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,269
different a different eye I think but

578
00:30:25,810 --> 00:30:24,320
it's really interesting it really

579
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:25,820
doesn't contradict what I thought before

580
00:30:32,259 --> 00:30:28,330
but it sort of enhances it a little bit

581
00:30:34,719 --> 00:30:32,269
so it's I mean that sort of the way it

582
00:30:37,329 --> 00:30:34,729
feels with these discoveries that you're

583
00:30:39,699 --> 00:30:37,339
making you know it's always been there

584
00:30:42,669 --> 00:30:39,709
it's been hidden and it's been buried in

585
00:30:45,369 --> 00:30:42,679
our consciousness or in the you know

586
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:45,379
social consciousness and now it's coming

587
00:30:53,709 --> 00:30:49,039
out again yes thing uncovered again it's

588
00:30:56,129 --> 00:30:53,719
a kind of resurrection it is and that's

589
00:31:00,099 --> 00:30:56,139
true of everything nothing can be hidden

590
00:31:03,819 --> 00:31:00,109
forever time will always turn it back up

591
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:03,829
again because time is not as we

592
00:31:11,139 --> 00:31:07,129
experience it we we have to experience

593
00:31:13,209 --> 00:31:11,149
time in a kind of linear way and so we

594
00:31:16,209 --> 00:31:13,219
think about the past and we think about

595
00:31:18,249 --> 00:31:16,219
the future we're going towards whereas

596
00:31:21,369 --> 00:31:18,259
the our ancestors didn't think about

597
00:31:25,479 --> 00:31:21,379
tithing in that way the cross reveals

598
00:31:29,349 --> 00:31:25,489
that they thought of time as being if

599
00:31:32,019 --> 00:31:29,359
you like time was just that changes so

600
00:31:36,219 --> 00:31:32,029
everything is static but it just changes

601
00:31:38,829 --> 00:31:36,229
and we measure the changes and that's

602
00:31:42,699 --> 00:31:38,839
quite hard to get your head around yes

603
00:31:45,369 --> 00:31:42,709
but it's easily experimented with and

604
00:31:48,849 --> 00:31:45,379
you can do that and I do that in my book

605
00:31:50,649 --> 00:31:48,859
I say well what you do is you hear a jet

606
00:31:55,779 --> 00:31:50,659
plane go over but you see the jet plane

607
00:31:58,359 --> 00:31:55,789
is not in the same place as as the sound

608
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:58,369
is coming from in the same way that what

609
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:00,320
you're doing is they're looking you're

610
00:32:04,899 --> 00:32:03,289
hearing something that's in the past but

611
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:04,909
also you're looking at something's in

612
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,609
the past so you're looking at a jet

613
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:09,919
plane or a star in the sky you're only

614
00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:12,769
seeing what was there or long ago as the

615
00:32:18,489 --> 00:32:15,320
light signals come to your eye as you

616
00:32:19,749 --> 00:32:18,499
receive who you receive the light so

617
00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:19,759
you're looking at the past but that's

618
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:21,620
true of your own finger if you

619
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:23,809
shiron knows with your own finger the

620
00:32:28,150 --> 00:32:26,240
signal goes from your finger up your arm

621
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:28,160
and into your brain so she touched your

622
00:32:33,250 --> 00:32:31,460
nose so even your fingers in the past as

623
00:32:36,490 --> 00:32:33,260
far as your perceptions are concerned

624
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:36,500
well it's interesting it is exactly

625
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:39,110
right yeah and there's no get now they

626
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:42,170
understood that and so in understanding

627
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:44,030
that they know more than our modern

628
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:46,640
science people do they're still

629
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:50,000
stumbling out of the restrictions of the

630
00:32:56,830 --> 00:32:53,600
church and the great franchises I like

631
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:56,840
to call it what I mean by the great

632
00:33:01,980 --> 00:32:59,120
franchises there was a deal done after

633
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:01,990
Constantine with the kings of Europe

634
00:33:07,510 --> 00:33:04,640
that they would pay to the church to

635
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:07,520
serve the amount of money from from

636
00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:10,490
their taxes to be part of that franchise

637
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:14,980
it was a bigger franchise than Donald

638
00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:19,490
so the rulers knew about how to measure

639
00:33:24,490 --> 00:33:21,380
time and control it but the people

640
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:24,500
didn't so now science is struggling to

641
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:27,880
catch up to what was once already known

642
00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:30,760
tremendous damage done to humanity oh

643
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:32,420
absolutely

644
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:35,360
but we kicked it over that the ordinary

645
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:38,690
people kicked over the traces and then

646
00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:41,870
they became free and that was the idea

647
00:33:46,930 --> 00:33:44,990
behind America and it was also what

648
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:46,940
caused most of the kings and queens of

649
00:33:52,210 --> 00:33:49,760
Europe to be deposed or murdered in the

650
00:33:54,490 --> 00:33:52,220
case of the French Revolution but the

651
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,500
people then have been free when

652
00:34:00,250 --> 00:33:56,960
absolutely nuts and [\h__\h] slaughtering

653
00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:00,260
each other by millions to fight out into

654
00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:03,260
a sense of being free as we are free now

655
00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:06,020
but we're not free because our minds are

656
00:34:11,139 --> 00:34:09,470
still tied that's right we free our

657
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,149
bodies we have freedom of speech

658
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:14,480
otherwise I couldn't talk to you to on

659
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:16,820
the radio modern we have freedom of

660
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:20,240
speech but what about our minds well

661
00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:22,610
we're we're imprisoned you know I've

662
00:34:28,270 --> 00:34:24,080
always said you know people talk about

663
00:34:33,129 --> 00:34:28,280
in these days and sort of a the New Age

664
00:34:35,470 --> 00:34:33,139
I guess term of awakening Island I don't

665
00:34:38,139 --> 00:34:35,480
like it it to an awakening so much as a

666
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:38,149
breaking out of jail it's like a

667
00:34:44,649 --> 00:34:40,730
breaking out jail in a lot of ways

668
00:34:46,569 --> 00:34:44,659
surely there are thinkers and there are

669
00:34:50,139 --> 00:34:46,579
seekers but they're few and far between

670
00:34:52,419 --> 00:34:50,149
I mean we're so programmed I mean

671
00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:52,429
whether we're religious or not we're

672
00:34:58,690 --> 00:34:54,560
still subject to whatever programming

673
00:35:00,400 --> 00:34:58,700
that we had the last religion for a

674
00:35:03,609 --> 00:35:00,410
second because I've covered that earlier

675
00:35:06,579 --> 00:35:03,619
the word religious means to be tied yes

676
00:35:08,589 --> 00:35:06,589
if you're an atheist you're religious if

677
00:35:10,569 --> 00:35:08,599
you're a scientist you're religious if

678
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:10,579
you believe in Darwin or modernism

679
00:35:18,099 --> 00:35:12,470
you're a religious person because you're

680
00:35:20,170 --> 00:35:18,109
tied to that belief yes so to be truly

681
00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:20,180
sovereign which is the first line of my

682
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:22,040
book I am the sovereign soul

683
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:25,849
cuz I'm tied to nothing No and faith is

684
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:27,170
another word if you look in the

685
00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:29,290
dictionary faith means to follow a man

686
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:32,990
why would I follow on that everybody's

687
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:38,930
his flaw desire yeah do you do you feel

688
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:41,290
that that holds true for things like

689
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:44,210
joining secret orders and things like

690
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:47,030
that I've always had kind of just had

691
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:50,720
that gut instinct naturally and have

692
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:53,630
never joined any organizations because I

693
00:35:59,859 --> 00:35:57,200
felt like that if I did I would have to

694
00:36:01,480 --> 00:35:59,869
have some allegiance to that

695
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:01,490
organization and it might be an

696
00:36:06,309 --> 00:36:02,960
organization that I really find

697
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:06,319
interesting and maybe I do agree with a

698
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:07,730
lot of what they stand for

699
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:11,150
but what if I did it you know would I be

700
00:36:18,339 --> 00:36:14,510
free or would i acquiesce to to the

701
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:18,349
group yes I would think so

702
00:36:26,579 --> 00:36:24,050
so yeah so just instinctively and then

703
00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:26,589
of course originally I used to do news

704
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:31,160
on the radio news newscaster so I felt

705
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:34,130
that you know as a journalist you know

706
00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:36,200
it wouldn't be right for me to be

707
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:38,900
affiliated with any organizations or

708
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:42,079
anything like that that would slant me

709
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:45,380
one way or the other but then just in my

710
00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:48,640
life I'm no longer a journalist I mean I

711
00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:52,750
the show not to be journalism but just

712
00:36:59,819 --> 00:36:55,660
sort of infotainment I guess you might

713
00:37:03,870 --> 00:36:59,829
want to call it and but I still hold

714
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:03,880
that that gut feeling that I have to

715
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:09,369
stay free yes and and that's absolutely

716
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:12,490
right if you if you join you have to

717
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:15,010
acquiesce but then you can you're a

718
00:37:20,759 --> 00:37:17,890
human being and that means being life

719
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:20,769
being human human being is life being

720
00:37:27,299 --> 00:37:25,390
human and so life is existence in all

721
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,309
sorts of ways and shapes and forms

722
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:30,640
within our planet and perhaps the

723
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:35,890
universe and so we are life being human

724
00:37:42,210 --> 00:37:37,990
and that's about as much attachment as I

725
00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:42,220
would want to give to anything yes yes

726
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:44,470
you know when we were on the break you

727
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:48,250
and I were talking and I had recalled

728
00:37:54,019 --> 00:37:49,920
something that I had heard you say

729
00:37:57,029 --> 00:37:54,029
regarding Eve in the Garden of Eden and

730
00:38:01,410 --> 00:37:57,039
the show called Apple or the fruit of

731
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:01,420
the forbidden tree of knowledge yeah can

732
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:03,670
I just don't you about that please

733
00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:07,450
please first what we have to understand

734
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:09,880
is that our religions come from

735
00:38:18,569 --> 00:38:15,359
astrology the first Genesis 1 verse 14

736
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:18,579
tells you that God put the Sun and the

737
00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:21,460
moon in the sky and the stars in the sky

738
00:38:28,319 --> 00:38:26,500
and signs the stars to be signs from

739
00:38:30,359 --> 00:38:28,329
which we would tell the days and the

740
00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:30,369
weeks and the years that's not an exact

741
00:38:35,759 --> 00:38:32,200
translation but if you look at Genesis

742
00:38:37,789 --> 00:38:35,769
14 you'll see the word is signs so we

743
00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:37,799
now know that it's an astrological

744
00:38:45,059 --> 00:38:42,220
Society that this teaching came from so

745
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:45,069
when we look at astrology there's the

746
00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:47,710
ecliptic plane now that's very much in

747
00:38:52,289 --> 00:38:50,140
the news at the moment because Pluto is

748
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:52,299
sitting in Sagittarius and we've just

749
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:56,170
done a flyby so yeah it's very very

750
00:39:02,670 --> 00:38:59,170
important so Sagittarius each of the

751
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:02,680
signs is 30 degrees long

752
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:05,050
starts with Orion the right hand of

753
00:39:13,290 --> 00:39:08,530
Orion travels around 360 degrees and

754
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:13,300
that is a circle of manmade signs in

755
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:16,210
which the Sun sets in the middle and we

756
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,250
travel Remzi at night and day night and

757
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:21,040
day night day as we go around our orbit

758
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:24,940
and on the planet so now we know that

759
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:27,670
it's an astrological teaching we now can

760
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:31,090
look at the story of Eve and so in the

761
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:35,230
story of Eve it's the fruit of the tree

762
00:39:43,950 --> 00:39:39,370
of knowledge of good and evil so a fruit

763
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:43,960
is a product so it's a product of the

764
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:46,240
tree of knowledge which means that when

765
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:48,430
they wrote that it was already a tree of

766
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:50,200
knowledge it was knowledge it come down

767
00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:52,930
to them when they wrote the Bible it's

768
00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:55,180
the put so we're looking at the fruit of

769
00:40:02,040 --> 00:39:58,750
a tree of knowledge but the is the tree

770
00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:02,050
of knowledge of good and evil now we in

771
00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:05,020
modern terms can look at our scientific

772
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:07,960
ways and say that the world is made up

773
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:11,410
of opposing forces those opposing forces

774
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:13,780
are creation on one hand and destruction

775
00:40:18,740 --> 00:40:15,880
in the other if you want if you choose

776
00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:18,750
or you could say it's of order and chaos

777
00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:24,100
and chaos of course is entropy so what

778
00:40:31,050 --> 00:40:26,350
we're saying is that changes of time

779
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:31,060
okay created by the tension between good

780
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:35,410
and evil or order and chaos constant

781
00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:42,070
changes caused by conflict why we learn

782
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:47,380
that and what gave us that was the Astra

783
00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:50,260
astrological sign of Draconis in the

784
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:54,220
North Pole the conus is the serpent the

785
00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:57,310
dragon it's seen in every religion in

786
00:41:02,130 --> 00:40:59,260
the northern hemisphere ancient ones

787
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:02,140
including Hindu religions and so forth

788
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:06,370
as a serpent called or bees which is the

789
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:09,090
serpent eating its own tail

790
00:41:14,690 --> 00:41:12,790
so as the Earth spins every day the

791
00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:14,700
serpent spins like the face of

792
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:18,390
clock and as they as we go throughout

793
00:41:25,579 --> 00:41:21,210
the year in the night sky we see the

794
00:41:28,370 --> 00:41:25,589
serpent brokenness spinning very slowly

795
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:28,380
one just slightly less than one degree a

796
00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:31,710
day at midnight but that was that clock

797
00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:33,900
so what we did with that is we brought

798
00:41:37,819 --> 00:41:35,339
that down and we made it into a

799
00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:37,829
mechanical clock in the 14th century and

800
00:41:43,220 --> 00:41:40,500
you can see that on the 24-hour clock at

801
00:41:44,859 --> 00:41:43,230
core lodge which is interesting because

802
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:44,869
that's where the astronomical society

803
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:48,050
gathers to discuss whether or not Pluto

804
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,040
was a planet it's all pretty much tied

805
00:41:58,849 --> 00:41:54,960
up because they know the roots of these

806
00:42:01,250 --> 00:41:58,859
things in a lot of ways so the fruit of

807
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:01,260
the tree of knowledge of order and chaos

808
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:04,920
is if you plant a seed at the right time

809
00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:08,730
of year then you get a fruit from it if

810
00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:11,849
you know anything about how to plan time

811
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:15,150
then you will receive fruit from that

812
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:17,849
knowledge and fruit give you an example

813
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:20,550
a motor-car is the fruit of a tree of

814
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,050
knowledge going all the way back to the

815
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:24,560
wheel it's created by millions of people

816
00:42:33,859 --> 00:42:29,369
over 6,000 years at experimenting carts

817
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:33,869
wheels mechanics engineering horses all

818
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:35,970
came together until you have a modern

819
00:42:44,349 --> 00:42:39,359
motorcar so motorcar is a fruit of the

820
00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:44,359
tree of knowledge mm-hmm ok it's a net

821
00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:48,780
so the teaching is quite simple that if

822
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:51,900
you understand tea time it produces a

823
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:54,690
fruit and she can understand why to

824
00:43:01,309 --> 00:42:57,030
protect the knowledge from the common

825
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:01,319
person since the common person was there

826
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:06,560
to support and produce the fruit right

827
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:12,329
ok so that's a material for it right in

828
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:14,670
the sense that if you understand tight

829
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:17,730
it's used even today in speculation on

830
00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:19,980
the stock market if you understand the

831
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:22,500
motions of time cyclical time you always

832
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:24,420
buy at the right time over sell at right

833
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,510
time it's the same with property it's

834
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:28,800
only the ones that don't

835
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:31,770
just and time to get caught out go into

836
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:33,930
negative equity or lose the stocks and

837
00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:40,710
chairs yes so sorry no no I I was just

838
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:43,160
gonna say but how so it would seem like

839
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:46,110
everything is the fruit of the tree of

840
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:47,700
knowledge just about everything that's

841
00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:51,420
produced yes so the next thing that

842
00:43:56,090 --> 00:43:53,790
we're told about in the Bible after that

843
00:43:58,820 --> 00:43:56,100
because the serpent was gay he was Gael

844
00:44:00,650 --> 00:43:58,830
for yeah so if look at if you look at

845
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:00,660
the Pharaohs headdress the reason for

846
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:02,370
having a serpent sticking out of the

847
00:44:08,330 --> 00:44:05,490
middle of your forehead and that and the

848
00:44:10,460 --> 00:44:08,340
O beard looking like a Serpent's body is

849
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:10,470
that you after you've got serpent

850
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:13,170
knowledge that's what it means you're

851
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:17,280
the ruler with serpent knowledge and

852
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:20,490
what about this whole idea of a

853
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:23,970
reptilian race is that just a sort of

854
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:27,810
bastardization of this whole idea kind

855
00:44:33,110 --> 00:44:30,570
of yeah look we've all got the reptile

856
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:33,120
in us because we come we come from

857
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:38,370
through that that change a train of life

858
00:44:43,730 --> 00:44:41,760
being something so in now we know that

859
00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:43,740
scientifically in part of our brains we

860
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:46,500
have reptilian issues but that's got

861
00:44:52,610 --> 00:44:49,170
nothing to do with that what this is

862
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:52,620
about rulership from a serpent point of

863
00:44:58,490 --> 00:44:56,310
view is to understand astrology and from

864
00:45:01,390 --> 00:44:58,500
astrology understand the nature of time

865
00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:01,400
which means you have to be a measurer

866
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:06,030
yes okay so if you can measure you can

867
00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:13,260
then control which is what they did it

868
00:45:20,030 --> 00:45:16,140
doesn't seem like it's a it's a

869
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:20,040
particularly complex idea it almost

870
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:25,280
seems very simple which all communities

871
00:45:33,590 --> 00:45:28,530
exactly exactly

872
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:33,600
but yet we're blind to it yes that's

873
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:36,570
because perhaps of our fears and fitting

874
00:45:41,330 --> 00:45:38,280
in with what our parents taught us and

875
00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:41,340
lots of the taught at school my teachers

876
00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:43,320
and you know the blind end up following

877
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:47,430
the blind yes and eventually if the

878
00:45:52,310 --> 00:45:50,010
blind sheet what walk off the edge of a

879
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:52,320
cliff is a whole flock just because the

880
00:45:58,430 --> 00:45:56,280
front first one did everything is useful

881
00:46:01,520 --> 00:45:58,440
it doesn't matter whether society is

882
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:01,530
built on a truth or an untruth providing

883
00:46:10,850 --> 00:46:04,530
the Society's cemented together by a

884
00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:10,860
similar concept and so but sometimes as

885
00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:13,620
time changes those concepts become

886
00:46:18,770 --> 00:46:16,830
redundant and then they're not doing for

887
00:46:24,890 --> 00:46:18,780
survival they're more destructive than

888
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:24,900
they are protected yes and that's where

889
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:27,570
we are as I said earlier you know in the

890
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,370
last couple of hundred years we've

891
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:32,880
managed to free ourselves but we um we

892
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:34,140
don't know what we'd been free to

893
00:46:38,930 --> 00:46:36,570
because mostly what we've done is

894
00:46:42,740 --> 00:46:38,940
deposed and killed the people who had

895
00:46:45,350 --> 00:46:42,750
this knowledge yeah exactly

896
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:45,360
okay so we I'd with him in the trenches

897
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:47,550
in the First World War and died in the

898
00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:48,690
Second World War

899
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:51,600
there's all these families that had this

900
00:46:58,850 --> 00:46:56,610
knowledge over the centuries died off so

901
00:47:01,010 --> 00:46:58,860
that even those going around professing

902
00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:01,020
they're in secret guilds like Templars

903
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:04,080
and Freemasons they don't know that's

904
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:07,260
right and I thought they would know and

905
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:10,770
I thought the church would know but you

906
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:13,050
know they don't there's no great

907
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:16,010
conspiracy hidden by people as just

908
00:47:21,770 --> 00:47:18,570
remnants of those old families still

909
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:21,780
trying to survive in the world and who

910
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:25,890
are those families well we in that way

911
00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:29,610
but but those those families that once

912
00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:33,060
held power are still trying to survive

913
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:36,750
well while the the people who are rising

914
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:41,750
to take their own power if you like

915
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:45,450
starting to find things out I don't know

916
00:47:51,050 --> 00:47:47,670
you know maybe you don't want to name

917
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,060
names or maybe there's just too many to

918
00:47:59,300 --> 00:47:53,760
name but it brings to mind people like

919
00:48:01,460 --> 00:47:59,310
the house of habsburg yeah who Willis

920
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,470
reeling and trying to come back to rule

921
00:48:05,810 --> 00:48:03,680
and seem to have some kind of

922
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:05,820
information or something there's

923
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:07,710
definitely something going on there

924
00:48:11,180 --> 00:48:09,540
is that the type of family you're

925
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:11,190
talking about yes it's a bit of

926
00:48:15,859 --> 00:48:14,130
information but you see the Silesians

927
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:15,869
the salt traders that made their

928
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:18,060
fortunes in Europe that became the royal

929
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:20,609
families we've known it but if you also

930
00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:22,290
have to remember that many royal

931
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:24,900
families wouldn't necessarily know it

932
00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:29,119
because they took by force the kingship

933
00:48:34,099 --> 00:48:32,040
so back in Europe in the old days the

934
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:34,109
kings and queens were all fighting

935
00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:36,510
killing each other so as to who had the

936
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:38,700
most power but they would also kill off

937
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:42,630
the knowledge it's quite standard in

938
00:48:49,630 --> 00:48:46,530
every end of every society for the the

939
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:49,640
conquering society to get rid of that

940
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:52,800
the knowledge of the previous Society is

941
00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:55,050
happening in the world now in the Middle

942
00:49:00,620 --> 00:48:57,720
East where ancient monuments are being

943
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:00,630
destroyed Christians the Christians did

944
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:06,390
it and as well way back when when they

945
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:10,500
destroyed Alexandra oh what a loss to

946
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:13,890
the world that was oh my god I think you

947
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:16,590
imagine if we had that library in

948
00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:20,880
Alexandria was all that information so

949
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:21,960
that's why they did it

950
00:49:27,859 --> 00:49:25,380
yeah and but they I mean everybody in

951
00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:27,869
science tends to point most of their

952
00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:30,180
stuff to the Greeks in terms of geometry

953
00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:33,750
and so forth and philosophy but of

954
00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:35,940
course has played to earth it wasn't

955
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:38,460
later was it but somebody somebody the

956
00:49:43,660 --> 00:49:40,470
Egyptians went to visit the Egyptians

957
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:43,670
and the Egyptians called Greek children

958
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:47,520
was that Alexander had conquered Egypt

959
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,180
and and then took over the country and

960
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:54,000
so it belonged to Greece which is having

961
00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:57,810
a hard time at moment and you know and

962
00:50:01,970 --> 00:50:00,780
and they claimed it for themselves but

963
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:01,980
the Egyptians told them they were like

964
00:50:07,490 --> 00:50:05,130
children they knew nothing and yet we

965
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:07,500
put all our stuff back in there

966
00:50:14,690 --> 00:50:10,710
linear concept and this is where I buck

967
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:14,700
the trend of Darwinistic concept of

968
00:50:20,210 --> 00:50:17,369
evolution in terms of it being linear

969
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:20,220
growth something that banks and

970
00:50:24,769 --> 00:50:22,650
politicians play with the words of all

971
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:24,779
the time I have never seen anything in

972
00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:27,990
reality that continues to grow it

973
00:50:33,289 --> 00:50:29,700
reaches its peak and then it doesn't

974
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:33,299
grow anymore such as oak trees birds you

975
00:50:38,539 --> 00:50:35,930
know every living thing that you can see

976
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:38,549
there is no continuous growth

977
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:43,609
there's only cycles you can through that

978
00:50:52,220 --> 00:50:46,170
in the philosophy of the Greeks they

979
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:52,230
also knew that well that's powerful

980
00:50:57,499 --> 00:50:55,470
powerful it's very simple the cross is a

981
00:51:01,279 --> 00:50:57,509
very simple measuring insulin but it's

982
00:51:04,819 --> 00:51:01,289
completely geometric and Jim in instance

983
00:51:07,849 --> 00:51:04,829
sent an aspherical e geometric but

984
00:51:12,499 --> 00:51:07,859
geometry means it comes from measuring

985
00:51:17,870 --> 00:51:12,509
Mother Earth geo earth natural mother

986
00:51:20,029 --> 00:51:17,880
Viet mater that's what means you really

987
00:51:22,609 --> 00:51:20,039
have to pay attention to the words don't

988
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:22,619
you yes and that's the point in English

989
00:51:28,249 --> 00:51:25,950
we do not and we are we use that as

990
00:51:31,460 --> 00:51:28,259
children get told off by our parents

991
00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:31,470
don't make new words up use the proper

992
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:32,670
words so that we won't be able to

993
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,640
understand you yes so words are precise

994
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:40,559
meanings and most human beings don't

995
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:42,359
find out how to let standing in front of

996
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:45,690
the judge loyal is the precision of

997
00:51:51,319 --> 00:51:47,490
words

998
00:51:54,529 --> 00:51:51,329
that's the rule of law that's right

999
00:51:58,519 --> 00:51:54,539
that's right I spent a lot of time in

1000
00:52:04,180 --> 00:51:58,529
another life actually part of this life

1001
00:52:07,549 --> 00:52:04,190
working in the world of law and my job

1002
00:52:11,059 --> 00:52:07,559
consisted of partly of drafting legal

1003
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:11,069
agreements and every single word and

1004
00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:15,390
punctuation was important absolutely it

1005
00:52:21,350 --> 00:52:18,390
is and I guess that's what I'm trying to

1006
00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:21,360
say this is either in

1007
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:24,120
ancient holy books or it's carved in

1008
00:52:31,010 --> 00:52:24,930
stone

1009
00:52:33,740 --> 00:52:31,020
yeah or it's in a dictionary yes it's no

1010
00:52:36,530 --> 00:52:33,750
great secret and and the church is put

1011
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:36,540
in full view as well you go into any of

1012
00:52:47,570 --> 00:52:40,050
the old cathedrals in Europe and it's

1013
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:47,580
late zodiac so if you go to Santiago de

1014
00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:51,090
Compostela yeah you'll see you'll see

1015
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:55,260
mother Mary standing on the moon with a

1016
00:53:02,720 --> 00:52:58,500
fruit on the Serpent's head only the

1017
00:53:05,390 --> 00:53:02,730
other church controls time and if you

1018
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:05,400
stand under the cross part because the

1019
00:53:09,290 --> 00:53:07,290
cathedrals laid out as a cross and look

1020
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:09,300
up at the dome ceiling you'll see a

1021
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:11,310
pyramid with the Eye of Horus

1022
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:14,970
mm-hmm the all-seeing eye which of

1023
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:18,240
course we use on our dollar bill our

1024
00:53:25,790 --> 00:53:20,130
money absolutely

1025
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:25,800
the how Polaris is time time and money

1026
00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:29,610
actually the same thing yeah the Spanish

1027
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:35,700
word for for our ours is horas hor a s

1028
00:53:42,110 --> 00:53:39,960
which yep very easily ties back to Horus

1029
00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:42,120
you know we're right at break time again

1030
00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:44,940
this is going by so quickly and when we

1031
00:53:50,090 --> 00:53:47,790
come back we're gonna get more into this

1032
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:50,100
idea of the Celtic Cross as a navigation

1033
00:53:57,980 --> 00:53:53,850
device and how it might have been used

1034
00:54:00,830 --> 00:53:57,990
or maybe even discovered by the Knights

1035
00:54:02,180 --> 00:54:00,840
Templar during their time so hang in

1036
00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:02,190
there with us and we'll be right back

1037
00:54:05,810 --> 00:54:04,470
Craig Miller thank you for hanging in

1038
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:05,820
there with us you're listening to night

1039
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:08,010
vision radio we're talking with Crichton

1040
00:54:13,610 --> 00:54:10,920
Miller and about the information

1041
00:54:17,690 --> 00:54:13,620
contained in his new book golden thread

1042
00:54:20,810 --> 00:54:17,700
of time and primarily about the Celtic

1043
00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:20,820
Cross and how it was actually much more

1044
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:23,190
than just a religious symbol that we

1045
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:25,950
know it as its it was actually a device

1046
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:30,570
a device for navigation and time so oh

1047
00:54:37,099 --> 00:54:34,530
goodness I wanted to get into

1048
00:54:41,150 --> 00:54:37,109
the Templars a little bit in this last

1049
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:41,160
half-hour if we could and you know it

1050
00:54:47,650 --> 00:54:43,650
seems that the Templars you know they're

1051
00:54:51,650 --> 00:54:47,660
sort of stated raised on debt was to go

1052
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:51,660
you know I guess accompanying pilgrims

1053
00:54:57,980 --> 00:54:54,510
on the path to Jerusalem to protect them

1054
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:57,990
but everyone knows that that wasn't

1055
00:55:02,330 --> 00:55:00,240
really the only reason that they were

1056
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:02,340
there and if they were found to have

1057
00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:05,490
been digging under the temple and things

1058
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:06,270
like that

1059
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:11,010
so was it this device that they were

1060
00:55:17,980 --> 00:55:14,220
looking for did they find it and was

1061
00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:17,990
that how they were able to navigate

1062
00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:21,240
meiosis I believe so and I'll write

1063
00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:24,630
about that in my book in some depth but

1064
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:27,270
again let's take let's go back to the

1065
00:55:33,170 --> 00:55:31,020
word template it comes from time so

1066
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:33,180
really their real name is Knights of

1067
00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:37,050
time that just blew my mind when you

1068
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:39,390
were talking about temple earlier and I

1069
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:42,030
was thinking temple Templar oh my god of

1070
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:44,130
course time yep

1071
00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:47,250
Knights of time and you see the thing is

1072
00:55:53,540 --> 00:55:50,430
our ancestors saw God this time they

1073
00:55:57,620 --> 00:55:53,550
didn't see God as the Sun if you go to

1074
00:55:59,930 --> 00:55:57,630
Egypt they state that quite clearly and

1075
00:56:04,520 --> 00:55:59,940
this is what probably the Templars found

1076
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:04,530
out or re rediscovered is that if you

1077
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:06,930
look at a menorah

1078
00:56:15,140 --> 00:56:11,040
it means the Sun in the moment of Aries

1079
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:15,150
a moon as in the end of the Lord's

1080
00:56:20,930 --> 00:56:17,460
Prayer are men that's what it means

1081
00:56:27,260 --> 00:56:20,940
so to tanka moon means tuck meaning

1082
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:27,270
wisdom wisdom an Ankeny wife so it's of

1083
00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:31,170
a moon or Aries so he was the

1084
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:34,020
representative of God on earth as the

1085
00:56:41,089 --> 00:56:37,920
Pharaoh as the life and wisdom of the

1086
00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:41,099
age of Aries the creative moment of the

1087
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:47,580
Sun in time hmm and I it's it's so

1088
00:56:51,210 --> 00:56:48,640
obvious so

1089
00:56:53,540 --> 00:56:51,220
what you have in this really important

1090
00:56:57,630 --> 00:56:53,550
is that a moon was around and

1091
00:57:03,089 --> 00:56:57,640
represented the sign of Aries which

1092
00:57:06,359 --> 00:57:03,099
lasted 2160 years after that it's the

1093
00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:06,369
age of the fish which is Pisces and so

1094
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:08,500
Jesus found fishermen to go out and

1095
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:10,839
catch the souls of the Age of Pisces and

1096
00:57:16,980 --> 00:57:12,970
that's why if you look at the Pope's hat

1097
00:57:21,089 --> 00:57:16,990
you see it's a fish's head all right

1098
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:21,099
Oh thought so the whole Christian faith

1099
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:23,710
is built on the sign of the fish which

1100
00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:27,609
lasts 2160 years and still is in

1101
00:57:32,820 --> 00:57:30,190
existence today we're still at the

1102
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:32,830
spring equinox the Sun rises in the sign

1103
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:36,310
of Pisces before he does it

1104
00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:39,250
queries maybe go back to what I was

1105
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:41,380
saying you have to understand that all

1106
00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:44,470
societies all ancient societies

1107
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:47,470
including the Chinese society were built

1108
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:48,690
on astrology

1109
00:57:55,650 --> 00:57:52,450
in that Chinese instead of using the

1110
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:55,660
Celtic Cross used the luopan the lure

1111
00:58:02,700 --> 00:57:58,570
pound is what we use at a very shallow

1112
00:58:04,770 --> 00:58:02,710
way today to do Feng Shui but the

1113
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:04,780
ancients hung a plumb line from the

1114
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:06,730
center eluate pan and could measure the

1115
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:09,550
heavens measure astrology remember the

1116
00:58:16,859 --> 00:58:13,750
nice ones the Wizards the wise ones yes

1117
00:58:19,650 --> 00:58:16,869
now that brings up a question that we

1118
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:19,660
just got via the chat room from from red

1119
00:58:25,859 --> 00:58:22,480
who says do we see the Celtic Cross

1120
00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:25,869
anywhere else but Europe is it seen in

1121
00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:29,980
Africa or the new world for example the

1122
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:33,359
guilty the Celtic crosses the

1123
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:34,930
Amerindians

1124
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:43,810
the medicine wheel in medicine wheel

1125
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:50,890
that's exactly the same thing so you

1126
00:58:56,579 --> 00:58:52,480
talk about world white civilization

1127
00:59:00,930 --> 00:58:56,589
based on astrology and animism and

1128
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:00,940
shamanism used so shamanism animism the

1129
00:59:05,620 --> 00:59:02,090
idea

1130
00:59:07,540 --> 00:59:05,630
very powerful word nature you see nature

1131
00:59:11,650 --> 00:59:07,550
comes from the word meta Ruth from

1132
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:11,660
ancient Egypt and that aru was was the

1133
00:59:18,970 --> 00:59:14,570
name for God the net Aroo were the

1134
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:18,980
nature spirits so when we say nature

1135
00:59:23,350 --> 00:59:21,350
today and separate it from our idea of

1136
00:59:25,210 --> 00:59:23,360
God and say we're at war with nature

1137
00:59:29,410 --> 00:59:25,220
were actually saying we're a war with

1138
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:29,420
God the intelligence that creates leaves

1139
00:59:43,330 --> 00:59:38,690
and flowers and birds and us now that's

1140
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:43,340
the teacher yeah I mean there's so much

1141
00:59:48,610 --> 00:59:45,170
it's it's it's sort of mind-boggling

1142
00:59:52,060 --> 00:59:48,620
it's hot so the American the red Indian

1143
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:52,070
met medicine wheel and exactly disabled

1144
00:59:58,300 --> 00:59:55,760
the Maya Maya have the cross so we've

1145
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:58,310
got they try and call it a sign a Sun

1146
01:00:03,460 --> 01:00:01,280
symbol or the wheel of Tyrannus love we

1147
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:03,470
love o dienes the same thing they just

1148
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:09,200
found one at Stonehenge 4,500 years old

1149
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:12,710
across on a gold disc with dots around

1150
01:00:21,550 --> 01:00:16,610
the outside 60 of them 60 which is the

1151
01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:21,560
number the first number in Bible 666 66

1152
01:00:30,370 --> 01:00:26,300
yes number for nature nature's numbers

1153
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:30,380
are the numbers of two one six Oh times

1154
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,920
twelve 25,920 all those numbers which

1155
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:35,680
applaud people with are not used to it

1156
01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:40,670
so I don't do that too much but all

1157
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:42,440
those numbers are there and there they

1158
01:00:53,050 --> 01:00:46,730
were there in every society the natural

1159
01:00:58,660 --> 01:00:53,060
numbers of nature and the growth reveals

1160
01:01:01,480 --> 01:00:58,670
it you know I've heard something and

1161
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:01,490
admittedly you know next to nothing

1162
01:01:08,170 --> 01:01:04,150
about it but I've heard something about

1163
01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:08,180
something called prime number cross is

1164
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:11,120
that have anything to do with the Celtic

1165
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:13,490
Cross or is there relationship there and

1166
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:15,440
I don't

1167
01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:19,520
by cons I do across

1168
01:01:24,010 --> 01:01:22,160
I just heard of that just this week and

1169
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:24,020
I started looking at it and I said okay

1170
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:26,330
I can't really get into this right now

1171
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:28,850
I've got to get into the Celtic Cross so

1172
01:01:33,970 --> 01:01:31,250
I didn't have a chance to really get too

1173
01:01:37,570 --> 01:01:33,980
much information about it but I'm not

1174
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:37,580
sure the problem isn't labeling it we

1175
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:40,640
love Tehran is Odin's wheel the Celtic

1176
01:01:47,410 --> 01:01:44,690
Cross it's it's an it's a useful

1177
01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:47,420
instrument because it's a weighted

1178
01:01:53,620 --> 01:01:50,840
circle on a crossbar which allows you to

1179
01:01:57,250 --> 01:01:53,630
take geometrical measurements that's

1180
01:01:59,620 --> 01:01:57,260
right so so therefore it can have all

1181
01:02:03,700 --> 01:01:59,630
sorts of combinations but the one that I

1182
01:02:06,970 --> 01:02:03,710
discovered which is the 1872 Dixon

1183
01:02:11,170 --> 01:02:06,980
relics in the Queen's Chamber which

1184
01:02:13,180 --> 01:02:11,180
Robert without put me on to that that

1185
01:02:16,690 --> 01:02:13,190
particular cross is far more

1186
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:16,700
sophisticated it's a simple cross like

1187
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:19,280
the crucifix but the cross bar is

1188
01:02:26,650 --> 01:02:23,090
divided into degrees so it's easier to

1189
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:26,660
handle and easier to to close but easy

1190
01:02:30,940 --> 01:02:28,370
and not to show if you see what I mean

1191
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:30,950
so you can take the cross bar out the

1192
01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:34,370
measure and you can put it into a cross

1193
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:36,350
form and hang a plumb line from it it's

1194
01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:40,250
far more accurate so even that was a

1195
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:41,990
development now that's on the front

1196
01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:44,770
cover of my book you look at there's a

1197
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:49,190
faceless person in a cloak and they have

1198
01:02:54,730 --> 01:02:52,070
a staff in one hand with an eerie sign

1199
01:02:57,790 --> 01:02:54,740
on the top and hanging from the belt

1200
01:03:01,660 --> 01:02:57,800
they've got a plumb bob and another

1201
01:03:04,690 --> 01:03:01,670
another wooden lat which is the the

1202
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:04,700
measuring rod and anybody can use it

1203
01:03:13,630 --> 01:03:10,970
that was how to do it hmm yeah so that

1204
01:03:15,370 --> 01:03:13,640
that cross designed the pyramids in my

1205
01:03:17,110 --> 01:03:15,380
opinion because it was found in the

1206
01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:17,120
pyramids and the pyramid to reflect

1207
01:03:24,580 --> 01:03:22,670
every natural number in degrees people

1208
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,590
always talk about the length of the

1209
01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:26,000
pyramid and the height of the pyramid

1210
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:29,150
and they don't do it in degrees

1211
01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:33,170
really important because you've got 180

1212
01:03:38,829 --> 01:03:35,630
degrees in each triangle so each

1213
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:38,839
triangle of one pyramid is 720 degrees

1214
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:42,650
in total and that is how many suns and

1215
01:03:46,779 --> 01:03:44,930
moons go round the horizon it's half a

1216
01:03:48,579 --> 01:03:46,789
degree across for the moon which is why

1217
01:03:51,490 --> 01:03:48,589
we get clips --es and half a degree

1218
01:03:54,190 --> 01:03:51,500
across for the Sun which is the same

1219
01:03:56,319 --> 01:03:54,200
reason we get clips is in the 720 of

1220
01:03:59,859 --> 01:03:56,329
them in our auras are on a horizon

1221
01:04:05,289 --> 01:03:59,869
circle hmm and that's embodied into the

1222
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:05,299
pyramid are you know you can only be

1223
01:04:10,900 --> 01:04:07,760
that skill than building that sort of a

1224
01:04:13,930 --> 01:04:10,910
thing if you have got an instrument they

1225
01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:13,940
took Petri I think it was 14 or 15

1226
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:15,710
instruments to measure the inside the

1227
01:04:25,569 --> 01:04:18,079
King's Chamber the crust does it as one

1228
01:04:28,210 --> 01:04:25,579
instrument and what they did is that

1229
01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:28,220
tri-state years they took the zodiac and

1230
01:04:34,059 --> 01:04:30,950
they the motions of the Earth and the

1231
01:04:37,930 --> 01:04:34,069
Sun and attends to an instrument so as

1232
01:04:41,620 --> 01:04:37,940
to measure them so when I was what what

1233
01:04:44,289 --> 01:04:41,630
was above is not below yeah yes the most

1234
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:44,299
important thing is that the first

1235
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:46,640
natural ruler that they used was a

1236
01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:54,049
serpent skin is interesting yeah and

1237
01:04:58,269 --> 01:04:56,329
because we used everything went back

1238
01:05:01,420 --> 01:04:58,279
there and a serpent skin which they

1239
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:01,430
slough off as they grow if you spread it

1240
01:05:07,059 --> 01:05:03,770
out on a stick it becomes a fantastic

1241
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:07,069
ruler this exponential because every

1242
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:10,730
living creatures built on a circle so

1243
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:13,730
it's his little scales work perfectly

1244
01:05:20,529 --> 01:05:18,079
for measuring that's why the dragon in

1245
01:05:23,049 --> 01:05:20,539
the northern hemisphere of the serpent

1246
01:05:25,269 --> 01:05:23,059
as it's called is what we did we were

1247
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:25,279
animistic so we throw the animal into

1248
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:25,849
the sky

1249
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:28,730
the first same with Taurus and Taurus

1250
01:05:33,970 --> 01:05:30,970
was because we hunted the aura and the

1251
01:05:36,430 --> 01:05:33,980
aura the sign of Taurus came up on the

1252
01:05:39,309 --> 01:05:36,440
horizon at the time that the aura were

1253
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:39,319
migrating do we new bit of when to

1254
01:05:44,249 --> 01:05:42,130
hunter because we ate them like the

1255
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:44,259
Erica red Indian we gave thanks to their

1256
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:51,190
spirit for sustaining us Wow now we have

1257
01:05:57,710 --> 01:05:53,740
some lost our way haven't we oh my

1258
01:06:00,870 --> 01:05:57,720
goodness it's it's an unbelievable now

1259
01:06:02,940 --> 01:06:00,880
I'm thinking about you were mentioning

1260
01:06:06,809 --> 01:06:02,950
earlier that that's the serpent the

1261
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:06,819
serpent eating its tail and it reminds

1262
01:06:14,490 --> 01:06:10,960
me of a book I call I read called Viking

1263
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:14,500
serpent yeah that's how I did the pre

1264
01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:17,130
forward for that annulled bolt

1265
01:06:25,140 --> 01:06:20,980
yes I did the forward on that work for

1266
01:06:27,450 --> 01:06:25,150
Herald because he'd found all these of

1267
01:06:29,099 --> 01:06:27,460
course the the thing about the Vikings

1268
01:06:30,839 --> 01:06:29,109
was that they were the serpent

1269
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:30,849
Christians that were thrown out of

1270
01:06:37,740 --> 01:06:33,240
Ireland by sympatric

1271
01:06:40,859 --> 01:06:37,750
you see it was a disagreeable Christian

1272
01:06:43,170 --> 01:06:40,869
sect so they they set their own churches

1273
01:06:45,749 --> 01:06:43,180
with a serpent roofs and everything up

1274
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:45,759
in Norway and then two three hundred

1275
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:47,890
years came back again and took Britain

1276
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:50,319
and then when they finish taking Britain

1277
01:06:54,690 --> 01:06:51,490
they took France

1278
01:06:56,490 --> 01:06:54,700
hence the North Normandy was there what

1279
01:06:59,640 --> 01:06:56,500
they were given and then they conquered

1280
01:07:01,319 --> 01:06:59,650
Britain again from both sides and then

1281
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:01,329
they start building cathedrals and

1282
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:04,390
putting all our knowledge into it right

1283
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:08,680
right okay that that that's the

1284
01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:11,710
shortened version of the idea of the

1285
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:14,799
Serpent's being thrown out of Ireland by

1286
01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:19,450
some Patrick so they had serpents on the

1287
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:20,950
front of their boats and they were

1288
01:07:25,890 --> 01:07:23,410
expert navigators they traveled to the

1289
01:07:27,690 --> 01:07:25,900
Baltic the Mediterranean all over the

1290
01:07:32,539 --> 01:07:27,700
place doing the trading raping and

1291
01:07:36,059 --> 01:07:32,549
pillaging did them really or was that

1292
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:36,069
I've read they got kind of a bad rap

1293
01:07:42,569 --> 01:07:40,240
they were traders yes and they were like

1294
01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:42,579
all seafaring and this is where I go

1295
01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:46,150
back to logistics you can't trade on a

1296
01:07:50,609 --> 01:07:48,910
ship unless you can find your way and if

1297
01:07:52,589 --> 01:07:50,619
you're three miles offshore and there's

1298
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:52,599
no mountains you can't see where you are

1299
01:07:58,050 --> 01:07:55,570
all is a sea and sky you need to

1300
01:08:00,210 --> 01:07:58,060
the user stars and you need to measure

1301
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:00,220
the stars and you need to measure the

1302
01:08:08,670 --> 01:08:03,670
stars within arc minutes the 60 arc

1303
01:08:10,590 --> 01:08:08,680
minutes in a degree Freemasons come from

1304
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:10,600
a knight templars but the Freemasons

1305
01:08:14,580 --> 01:08:12,400
built at the end of the day they were

1306
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:14,590
Masons they built the holy churches they

1307
01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:17,710
had to know all this yeah they would

1308
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:20,440
have had to sew in the inside of Rosslyn

1309
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:22,930
Chapel have a photograph of a cross on a

1310
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:26,710
tripod exactly the same as a Mason's

1311
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:29,530
mark from when they built Rosslyn Chapel

1312
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:34,810
it's a tiny cross on a tripod and it

1313
01:08:42,059 --> 01:08:38,560
shows exactly what my patient does they

1314
01:08:45,059 --> 01:08:42,069
didn't know Wow where is that in the in

1315
01:08:47,099 --> 01:08:45,069
Rosslyn it's a leper chapel down in the

1316
01:08:50,130 --> 01:08:47,109
annex to the leper chapel if you go

1317
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:50,140
through in and then look up to look up

1318
01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:53,530
to I guess it's and you look up to the

1319
01:09:00,170 --> 01:08:57,910
west mmm it's right on the insides of

1320
01:09:04,289 --> 01:09:00,180
Masons was there something that you

1321
01:09:08,370 --> 01:09:04,299
spotted or was that showing some Brydon

1322
01:09:13,140 --> 01:09:08,380
who's deceased note and he showed to me

1323
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:13,150
when we were talking about the the

1324
01:09:21,450 --> 01:09:15,549
chapel and how it was built and what the

1325
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:21,460
hidden meanings were in it now is that

1326
01:09:30,329 --> 01:09:27,010
there a musical aspect to to Rosslyn yes

1327
01:09:33,750 --> 01:09:30,339
the G it's College H my name is Kryten

1328
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:33,760
Sam a small family clan comes from that

1329
01:09:39,539 --> 01:09:37,870
far so great in church is the next one

1330
01:09:41,190 --> 01:09:39,549
over that's a college eight church as

1331
01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:41,200
well absolutely beautiful

1332
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:43,900
now you have to work out the angles so

1333
01:09:49,530 --> 01:09:47,530
they didn't just work out how to do

1334
01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:49,540
astrology and measure the outside the

1335
01:09:55,170 --> 01:09:52,150
buildings they needed to work out Sonics

1336
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:55,180
or if you like how sound bounced and

1337
01:09:59,340 --> 01:09:57,520
that is about the same it's about angles

1338
01:10:02,340 --> 01:09:59,350
you need to get the right curve to

1339
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,350
project the zone so it hits the audience

1340
01:10:09,210 --> 01:10:05,520
if you get a very clever setup you can

1341
01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:09,220
speak very quietly with with

1342
01:10:14,370 --> 01:10:11,950
with these things like the Maya ballpark

1343
01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:14,380
so you can sit on the curve that at one

1344
01:10:18,990 --> 01:10:16,240
end and you can hear somebody whisper it

1345
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:19,000
you know that yes the sound is set up

1346
01:10:27,060 --> 01:10:22,690
perfectly we've lost that we're only

1347
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:27,070
just beginning that that cleverness the

1348
01:10:29,850 --> 01:10:29,170
college a church in is like Rosslyn

1349
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:29,860
Chapel

1350
01:10:36,180 --> 01:10:32,890
crichton Church and the many others were

1351
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:36,190
all for about projecting sound in the

1352
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:38,950
right way so it sounded beautiful within

1353
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:41,950
your ears like a stereo you know like

1354
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:45,190
stereo headphones yeah I've noticed that

1355
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:49,930
in a lot of churches in France yeah they

1356
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:52,420
seem to have unusual acoustics I

1357
01:10:59,040 --> 01:10:55,120
remember one time we were up at this

1358
01:11:02,990 --> 01:10:59,050
little Church in San severe which is you

1359
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:03,000
know near the Ren Li Chateau area and

1360
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:06,000
it's a very old I believe it was

1361
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:13,840
originally a Celtic site but we were in

1362
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:16,810
there and we were singing and when we

1363
01:11:26,340 --> 01:11:21,760
stopped the sound continued for the last

1364
01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:26,350
note held for the longest time it was

1365
01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:32,230
spooky yes it was it was it was amazing

1366
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:35,140
but I was like just flabbergasted by it

1367
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:38,050
because I kept thinking it's still going

1368
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:41,350
it's still going it's still going and it

1369
01:11:46,580 --> 01:11:43,930
seemed like forever and I said how could

1370
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:46,590
it carry the sound that long

1371
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:49,810
mathematics yeah apparently well music

1372
01:11:54,930 --> 01:11:52,690
is mathematics is nothing yes it is but

1373
01:11:56,610 --> 01:11:54,940
but being able to project the sound is

1374
01:12:00,000 --> 01:11:56,620
mathematics do you need to know at what

1375
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:00,010
degree it and how how it bounces off the

1376
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:04,480
angle of a roof hmm then very very very

1377
01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:08,080
clever and the and they did it by simple

1378
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:09,820
systems like the one I'm explaining

1379
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:13,090
there's nothing complex about the Celtic

1380
01:12:17,190 --> 01:12:15,520
Cross but it got a patent because

1381
01:12:18,890 --> 01:12:17,200
there's nothing else like it on the

1382
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:18,900
planet

1383
01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:22,390
it's just it's amazing that it's just

1384
01:12:24,899 --> 01:12:22,780
now

1385
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:24,909
coming back out and thanks to you and

1386
01:12:32,189 --> 01:12:27,730
your good work that's wonderful I kind

1387
01:12:34,109 --> 01:12:32,199
of you but it is a bit of a burden I can

1388
01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:34,119
imagine but I'm sure it's also a labor

1389
01:12:40,859 --> 01:12:36,520
of love it is a labor of love

1390
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:40,869
I'm totally fixed on it OCD I think they

1391
01:12:45,569 --> 01:12:43,780
call it well it's really good though I

1392
01:12:48,629 --> 01:12:45,579
mean you know it's there there are so

1393
01:12:52,669 --> 01:12:48,639
many aspects that have been you know

1394
01:12:55,709 --> 01:12:52,679
either hidden deliberately or just lost

1395
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:55,719
it's deliberately hidden because it's

1396
01:13:01,470 --> 01:12:58,960
how people earn their living yes well

1397
01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:01,480
it's wonderful right take it back to the

1398
01:13:05,819 --> 01:13:03,550
reason why I did the Paton nobody can

1399
01:13:09,180 --> 01:13:05,829
take the cross away from me for 20 years

1400
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,190
then it becomes public yes but in those

1401
01:13:13,379 --> 01:13:11,440
days if they took the cross away from

1402
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:13,389
the person that used it they could make

1403
01:13:18,319 --> 01:13:15,520
the same living and deny that personal

1404
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:18,329
living that's that's why it's a secret

1405
01:13:24,029 --> 01:13:22,000
it's none it's not some great conspiracy

1406
01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:24,039
about lizards with tails hanging out

1407
01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:27,880
under skirts and things it's good it's

1408
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:31,270
it's a simple simple thing that you

1409
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:34,000
protect people in this world nowadays

1410
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:37,449
expect things for nothing they download

1411
01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:39,489
music for nothing that other people of

1412
01:13:44,189 --> 01:13:42,190
work taught me expect it for nothing the

1413
01:13:45,870 --> 01:13:44,199
old in the old days people were probably

1414
01:13:48,270 --> 01:13:45,880
the same but they had to protect

1415
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:48,280
themselves and they had to protect their

1416
01:13:56,609 --> 01:13:52,239
knowledge so it's simple they hid it for

1417
01:13:59,490 --> 01:13:56,619
commercial reasons yeah in the same way

1418
01:14:02,720 --> 01:13:59,500
that I've spent 10 years working on a

1419
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:02,730
system a computer system cloud-based

1420
01:14:09,569 --> 01:14:06,340
that manages people's work in time and

1421
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:09,579
it's patented and it's copyrighted to

1422
01:14:12,209 --> 01:14:11,590
protect it so that nobody else can steal

1423
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:12,219
it from me

1424
01:14:17,879 --> 01:14:16,090
right and that's commercial so we have

1425
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:17,889
to have two heads you know we have to

1426
01:14:21,810 --> 01:14:19,840
have a commercial head in our spiritual

1427
01:14:28,049 --> 01:14:21,820
hand and if you've only got one you're

1428
01:14:30,750 --> 01:14:28,059
unbalanced yeah yeah yeah the practical

1429
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:30,760
reasons for doing things is about

1430
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,369
earning a living and looking after your

1431
01:14:36,150 --> 01:14:35,440
family or looking after your group or

1432
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:36,160
your country

1433
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:38,530
whatever you decide is going to be it

1434
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:41,050
you're gonna protect it sometimes with

1435
01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:46,090
your life yeah it's like industrial

1436
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:49,660
secrets you know and it is an industrial

1437
01:14:54,530 --> 01:14:52,560
secret Macross was an industrial secret

1438
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:54,540
it's simple really

1439
01:14:59,880 --> 01:14:58,210
and now it's out why is it now why am I

1440
01:15:09,270 --> 01:14:59,890
being allowed to put it out because it's

1441
01:15:14,670 --> 01:15:09,280
redundant in but why now well because

1442
01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:14,680
the timing is right yes I had a feeling

1443
01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:15,580
you were gonna say that

1444
01:15:21,870 --> 01:15:18,670
yeah timings right and in our Western

1445
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:21,880
world we just absolutely spent

1446
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:24,640
everything we can on gratification and

1447
01:15:31,230 --> 01:15:28,330
it now sits in in Council whatever you

1448
01:15:32,730 --> 01:15:31,240
know tips and you know I mean things

1449
01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:32,740
like that all the stuff that we bought

1450
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:35,710
and spoiled ourselves with up to 2007

1451
01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:39,730
2008 and then our money all fell apart

1452
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:43,300
people are jaded with possessions and

1453
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:44,560
now they need something a bit more

1454
01:15:48,510 --> 01:15:47,140
perhaps yeah well that's a good thing I

1455
01:15:54,270 --> 01:15:48,520
think so

1456
01:15:56,460 --> 01:15:54,280
that is a good thing you know yes yeah

1457
01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:56,470
so maybe that's why the timings now I

1458
01:16:01,650 --> 01:15:59,170
don't know but it's coming it's come at

1459
01:16:03,450 --> 01:16:01,660
the right time I'm sure do you does it

1460
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:03,460
have anything to do do you think with

1461
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,120
the ending of the Age of Pisces yeah the

1462
01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:09,040
idea is that people get confused about

1463
01:16:14,490 --> 01:16:11,380
worlds you know the end of the world

1464
01:16:16,050 --> 01:16:14,500
just means the end of an epoch it

1465
01:16:18,150 --> 01:16:16,060
doesn't mean the end of the planet

1466
01:16:20,250 --> 01:16:18,160
people again they get the words mixed up

1467
01:16:23,460 --> 01:16:20,260
so yeah you've got the Christians

1468
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:23,470
fighting with the Atheist silver you

1469
01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:27,270
know the world being made in in six in

1470
01:16:33,330 --> 01:16:30,280
six thousand years well that's true

1471
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:33,340
because the world is actually an epoch

1472
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:37,170
we started it when we built the pyramids

1473
01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:40,150
beginning of the age of Taurus is 6,000

1474
01:16:44,460 --> 01:16:40,660
years ago

1475
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:44,470
so we started it this current epoch if

1476
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:48,610
you like start at 6,000 years ago but

1477
01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:49,810
not the planet

1478
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:55,480
all right right you with me yes I am and

1479
01:17:00,600 --> 01:16:57,370
you know he's just thinking you know I

1480
01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:00,610
think we're eager testicle always we

1481
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:02,470
think it's always about us and about our

1482
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:04,450
time and that's probably why we always

1483
01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:06,550
think the end of the world is coming you

1484
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:09,000
know rather than the end of an epoch

1485
01:17:14,610 --> 01:17:11,770
yeah the end of the world begins and

1486
01:17:17,490 --> 01:17:14,620
ends for one person every moment in our

1487
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:17,500
planet a new persons born another one

1488
01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:19,690
passes away that's the end of their

1489
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:25,300
world yes yeah oh my goodness this is so

1490
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:28,930
a lot of information to take in and but

1491
01:17:34,290 --> 01:17:31,690
but it triggers so much you know it's

1492
01:17:37,290 --> 01:17:34,300
been triggering thoughts all day in in

1493
01:17:39,210 --> 01:17:37,300
connections and so far when I've

1494
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:39,220
mentioned them to you they seem to be

1495
01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:41,290
there seem to be a connection and that's

1496
01:17:45,150 --> 01:17:43,780
why they were popping up for me and I

1497
01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:45,160
think you know that that's something

1498
01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:46,480
that we could all do is you know

1499
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:51,460
consider this material and you know the

1500
01:17:56,220 --> 01:17:53,560
Cathars next time you get to front and

1501
01:17:59,160 --> 01:17:56,230
see why they were annihilated

1502
01:18:03,320 --> 01:17:59,170
and repents communicated oh my goodness

1503
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:03,330
I may have to call you back privately

1504
01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:05,710
there's so many more things I did want

1505
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:07,660
to ask you about but we're at the very

1506
01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:11,440
end of the show and I want to thank you

1507
01:18:16,530 --> 01:18:13,860
Frank Miller for enlightening us today

1508
01:18:19,670 --> 01:18:16,540
and I want to remind people that they

1509
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:19,680
can get your book golden thread of time

1510
01:18:30,290 --> 01:18:23,530
on your website right Miller comm that

1511
01:18:34,410 --> 01:18:30,300
see RI chto n mi ll R right Miller

1512
01:18:36,570 --> 01:18:34,420
and read for yourself what he's

1513
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:36,580
discovered and we want to thank you for

1514
01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:39,130
sharing with us tonight it's my great

1515
01:18:44,430 --> 01:18:40,780
pleasure thank you very much for asking

1516
01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:44,440
me to talk on your show yes and I want

1517
01:18:49,740 --> 01:18:46,900
to thank our friend court Linda for

1518
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:49,750
helping to make the connection and also

1519
01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:52,960
I want to thank MJ so thanks very much

1520
01:18:57,090 --> 01:18:55,300
MJ again for helping us out and helping

1521
01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:57,100
us get this information out to everyone